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    Angry For The Love of God, Nerf Tyra!

    Every single one of her skills and builds are so overpowered

    Her basic weapon is already a high damage weapon because she's a damage class, but for no reason she gets FREE 15% life steal just for existing.

    Nade launcher is meant to be a burst damage option on a character who is all about dps, because "what burst meta problem?" It was manageable before because of the single shot and medium cooldown, but now she gets to use this hitscan burst damage up to 3 times in a row without any drawback.

    Fire Bomb does huge percentage damage in a giant AoE that GROWS AND FOLLOWS champions making it a complete death sentence when you remember it reduces healing 50% too! On top of that she can make it do more damage AND cripple basically guaranteeing her free kills.

    Hunter's Mark gives Tyra the option to pick an enemy to get free wallhacks on for her whole team AND deal extra damage even though she's already a damage class! Then she gets the option of putting wallhacks on 2 enemies AND having it last longer AND dealing more damage AND giving the damage bonus to her whole team!

    All of these unbalanced effects and abilities and she still has loadout cards to make all of them EVEN MORE POWERFUL. Tyra is the most unbalanced champion in the game and too many people are ignoring this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeowskii View Post
    Every single one of her skills and builds are so overpowered

    Her basic weapon is already a high damage weapon because she's a damage class, but for no reason she gets FREE 15% life steal just for existing.

    Nade launcher is meant to be a burst damage option on a character who is all about dps, because "what burst meta problem?" It was manageable before because of the single shot and medium cooldown, but now she gets to use this hitscan burst damage up to 3 times in a row without any drawback.

    Fire Bomb does huge percentage damage in a giant AoE that GROWS AND FOLLOWS champions making it a complete death sentence when you remember it reduces healing 50% too! On top of that she can make it do more damage AND cripple basically guaranteeing her free kills.

    Hunter's Mark gives Tyra the option to pick an enemy to get free wallhacks on for her whole team AND deal extra damage even though she's already a damage class! Then she gets the option of putting wallhacks on 2 enemies AND having it last longer AND dealing more damage AND giving the damage bonus to her whole team!

    All of these unbalanced effects and abilities and she still has loadout cards to make all of them EVEN MORE POWERFUL. Tyra is the most unbalanced champion in the game and too many people are ignoring this problem.
    "Her basic weapon is already a high damage weapon because she's a damage class, but for no reason she gets FREE 15% life steal just for existing."

    no mobility or survivability skills

    "Fire Bomb does huge percentage damage in a giant AoE that GROWS AND FOLLOWS champions making it a complete death sentence when you remember it reduces healing 50% too! On top of that she can make it do more damage AND cripple basically guaranteeing her free kills."

    that following thing is still weird, but generally positioning and nimble help deal with it

    "Hunter's Mark gives Tyra the option to pick an enemy to get free wallhacks on for her whole team AND deal extra damage even though she's already a damage class! Then she gets the option of putting wallhacks on 2 enemies AND having it last longer AND dealing more damage AND giving the damage bonus to her whole team!"

    I've heard hunting party was strong, I haven't tested it myself though.

    "Nade launcher is meant to be a burst damage option on a character who is all about dps, because "what burst meta problem?" It was manageable before because of the single shot and medium cooldown, but now she gets to use this hitscan burst damage up to 3 times in a row without any drawback."

    Strix also has a reveal,ridiculous burst and high dps to deal with lack of mobility and survivability, does he need a nerf too?
    (kinessa needs some love imo.)

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    Tyra having low mobility does little to balance her. She can kill most champions (specifically flanks) in only a second or two. If that isn't enough then think about hunters mark. The closest counter Tyra has is flanks, but they can't do anything against her if they're marked since you can see them coming through walls from any range completely getting rid of the point of being a flank. You don't need to worry about survivability when you have stronger damage and wall hacks than Lex. If she really needs survivability they could've come up with something more creative than just free life steal.

    Fire Bomb is worst for tanks because there's been so many times even with nimble you can't escape it because of the ridiculous mechanic that its radius increases and can follow you. As a tank not even level 3 nimble can save you. The "positioning" arguement doesn't work because the AoE can cover an ENTIRE capture point if your playing on a map like Frog Isle or Fish Market. That level of are denial puts Dead Zone to shame.

    Also, yes i do think Strix needs a nerf because of his crazy burst damage but his reveal ability isn't nearly as strong. For strix to reveal you, you have to be standing right next to flare, and it's pretty common for Strix to shoot a flare somewhere and not reveal an enemy for it's whole duration. Tyra, however, can just press F while looking at you and from there you're revealed at ANY range AND take extra damage from attacks.

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    I strongly disagree with you.
    Tyra is nowhere near the most unbalanced champion in the game.
    Tyra does potentially high damage but most people don't have the aim for it.

    Burn Monster: When talking about Fire Bomb it only becomes broken when we are talking about this talent.
    It has a huge damage boost on top of Crowd Control which compounds the broken damage even more.
    Most Tyra players who can't aim use this talent because they believe it's free damage. Which it basically is.

    Fire Bomb in general is a strong ability but can be completely rendered near useless. At base it's not broken, it's a solid ability when used correctly.

    The 15% lifesteal is a joke. It was a joke even as the talent "First Blood". Viktor can get 40% lifesteal in cards while using Iron Sights. It helps with sustain but seriously it's what a level 1 Lifesteal purchase? If we were talking about 50% at base then there would some credence to this complaint.

    Hunter's Mark only gives Tyra 15% bonus damage to herself unless she uses the talent "Hunting Party".

    Hunting Party: Gives Tyra and her allies 25% Bonus damage to enemies marked by Hunter's Mark.
    The damage portion of Hunter's Mark only lasts about 4-6 seconds and cannot be increased whilst the reveal portion can be.

    The reveal can stop aggression from certain champions but many flanks shouldn't really care.
    Evie, Talus, Maeve are just some that shouldn't really care about the reveal as all three can get a kill and get out.

    Also Tyra does have a good amount of Damage drop off so it's not like she is dealing insane damage constantly.

    Nade Launcher isn't Hitscan, it's not Hitscan even with Mercy Kill.

    Hunting Party and Mercy Kill are Tyra's two best talents.

    Mercy Kill use useful when you are going to get constantly dived on some maps.
    Hunting Party is useful against an enemy composition that has two backline Damage Champions.
    At least this how I differentiate to which one I use.

    Tyra having no mobility is a huge issue. It was on her release and it is currently. Tyra is extremely susceptible to dive champions.

    I'm not sure if you are getting outplayed by a Tyra players but I mean none of her abilities are broken at base and only one is broken through the use of a talent.
    Patch 1.4 Ying Best Healer in the Damn Game.

    Support Skye is a better healer than Jenos.

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    Burn Monster and Fire Bomb need a nerf.

    Huge damage. Deals percantage HP damage. %9 damage every 0.6 seconds. Means %90 total at 6 seconds. And Burn Monster increase that by %50 more. %135 damage total. Means you will die if u stay 5 seconds in it.
    %50 heal reduction
    %50 slow
    Cripples (and it is continuous so Resilience can't counter it)
    Also damages deployables (turrets, mines, illusions whatsoever), shields and barriers
    Huge Aoe. And it spreads! It looks like it is homing. Like it is spreading towards players not randomly.
    Cooldown can be reduced greatly with Volatile and Primal Might. So spamming Fire Bomb is possible.

    This skill does too much thing.(Aoe Damage, heal reduction, CC, Zone denial.) It needs to be nerfed. Remove Heal reduction and deployable damage from firebomb and remove cripple effect from Burn Monster. Instead of it increase the slow rate.

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    Burn Monster is literally her worst talent. You can just go out of it. Okay, the only situation where I see it being okay is when the enemy team runs a heavy comp with at least 3 tanks on a small map, but other than that it's just bad, you can just walk out of it. Burn Monster is only being played in low elo, at top tier you will never ever see it just cuz it's bad.
    Mercy Kill is decent if you wanna frag and have burst. But when you're complaining about burst, you should look at Lian, Cassie, Imani and Strix and not at Tyra.
    And Hunting Party is the only thing that makes her viable. She has no mobility, she has limited range (only effective up to mid-range), she has no self-sustain (her liferip is like nothing, cauterize completely shuts it down). The Hunting Party is what makes her viable.And nerfing Hunting Party would make her complete garbage, so I don't think she needs a nerf. She is good but by no means op.

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