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Thread: Every DMG Champion in This Game Makes Willo Obsolete

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    After the smoke clears at the end of the day I agree with neoraider, willow is currently overshadowed by other champs...I feel like theres one of those characters in every game... But I enjoy playing her,deadzone , , even after the nerf is a ridiculously good ability... Used right it can completely shut down the enemy team... Her weapon feels weak to you... Because you compared it to dredge's! She has an interesting kit that can be used to completely turn the fight around ( even if her ULT is underwhelming)

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    There are worst champions like Talus with his mini machine gun:
    110 damage x 45 bullets = 6000 damage total
    this is so ridiculous

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    This has been a common topic: Willo is bad compared to other damages. The thing is, she isn't. She is just a lot more specialized in her role. What is that role? Making frontlines (and somewhat supports) lives a living hell. Willo's entire kit just screams frontline annihilation. With blastflower she has damage stacking against single targets, she has AOE fuck yo' heals, she has a Q that covers the entire objective, as well as an ultimate that turns her into a carpet bomber far out of reach for every frontline. No other champion in the game is so anti-frontline as Willo is. The exception to that is Dredge but Dredge and Imani are on a whole different tier of power level so let's not use them for comparison. Willo is specialized, so yeah, she is weaker against other damages and flanks compared to other damages. In a good team though, Willo is an absolute monster for enemy frontlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLasagna View Post
    No other champion in the game is so anti-frontline as Willo is.
    What about debilitate skye?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLasagna View Post
    as well as an ultimate that turns her into a carpet bomber far out of reach for every frontline.
    Her ult makes her a pretty easy target. As soon as you see a willo ulting, and if you have a minimum of aim, she dies as soon as she starts flying. She moves really slow

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLasagna View Post
    In a good team though, Willo is an absolute monster for enemy frontlines.
    In a good team, everyone can do good, even a champ with a very poor suvavility capability such as willo

    Her q can be useful, but if you're not using scorn it's pretty easy to escape from it. Her f is very poor, it starts slowly and doesn't have a long distance, it can be practical to get to some places, but to survive is a really bad skill. Her rmb can be good as a caut substitute but it only lasts for 1 sec if you get out of it. Any decent flank / dmg / whatever champ can kill willo as soon as they get a bit close to her. She can do decent in mid / long ranges, but as soon as you get close to her or she ults, she dies pretty fast

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    I really don't think Willo is that bad. She could use some help on her F and ult but otherwise she's pretty good. The real problem is that some other champs just do too much damage. Reigning them in a bit is what's needed, not so much a boost to Willo. We don't need to slowly pull all the champions up to be able to one shot everybody. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsCrii View Post
    I really don't think Willo is that bad. She could use some help on her F and ult but otherwise she's pretty good. The real problem is that some other champs just do too much damage. Reigning them in a bit is what's needed, not so much a boost to Willo. We don't need to slowly pull all the champions up to be able to one shot everybody. :P
    Basically. She is not bad, if you don't compare her to other champs. They need to nerf others or the ttk would get more ridiculous than it already is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koopakid View Post
    Yeah I don't think comparing willow to dredge is a fair contrast by a long shot... The reason being is that they have different roles...
    The reason is more that dredge is broken. He is permaban for a reason, his popularity is even lower than that of willow, cause he is almost always banned. More often than THE DRAGON.

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    Willo

    High Ground Dependant,
    Low burst damage,
    Easily flanked,

    1 Powerful anti heal zone that can turn a point/choke fight, absolutely fine, works well, IDK why they don't make it have a weak DoT as a Talent. Make it like tyra molotov but an anti heal focused one instead of damage focused.
    2 A useless unless exploited hand grenade that feels mediocre at best and does not combo with the kit well enough to really have as an ability. This would be better as a deployable, some sort of lie in wait land mines.
    3 Flutter is average at best for a character with wings, needs to allow for a brief hove above the ground.

    Many folk wish willo to be a bit better.
    She is apt as a sniper Blaster.
    But has always looked like a pink special needs child and feels more like a lethal bubblemancer rather then a fairy....

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    The most concise way I've found to explain where Willow is at is this.

    "She's great, if you're already winning"
    #make-ash-angry-again

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    I feel like willow needs more on her escape ability to make her more viable as a character. Like what if after using Flutter she was able to hover in the air for longer and a slower descent (i.e. like when drogoz uses his jet fuel, but with the physics of jenos) by holding the F key. Releasing it would make her fall down like normal. It would be like a mini ult with smaller range.

    She als0 needs a mobility buff on her ult since she becomes an easy target if the enemy team focuses on her when her ult is activated

    Overall her damage output and deadzone are pretty decent. It's her lack of a decent mobility that gets her killed most of the time since enemies can easily get up close and personal with her regardless of her Flutter ability.

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