Blue Card: Persistence (Harmful Status Effect Protection)

[AyyDimitri]

Item Shop Card: Persistence

Price: 200 / 400 / 600

Effect:
Reduce the Duration of Harmful Effects by 20/40/60%.

Breakdown:
What is a harmful effect? I'm talking about things like Burning, Poison, Reveal effects that persist over a gradual duration. Non controlling harmful effects that effect you though Resilience.

Ever been torched by Nando, to any chump without an ability the negate the flames, they get burned at a mere tick for 200 over 2s.
Mal Poison, Skye poison are similar in this aspect.
And I believe there will be many new abilities to come that will fall into this area.

Ok So..

Currently there is no real defence against these elements other then taking the appropriate damage resistance. Which means that hostile effects such as damage over time can play a detrimental role throughout the game and not be countered by items in the shop beyond damage application.

It is the duration of such hostile effects that plays an interesting role in the way the game plays.

- If a character is being damaged by most damage over time attacks, they lose their ability to get out of combat for several seconds thus losing potential self healing.

- Most champs with no ability to cleanse these effects get put under additional pressure and must zone back to safer grounds by just merely walking into Nando burn, or revealed for eternity by standing in line of sight of Tyra.

By having some in game element that reduces the the duration of such effects would be much greater for players all round while fighting against opponents that can combine damage over time with regular damage.

I think there are certain champions who'd invest credits in building themselves against damage over time effects, then we should see some interesting damage over time effects be implemented in future game design that can be balanced by this item being present. This Item would also be a indirect Buff to stealth champs trying to persist through abusive reveals.

[Koopakid]

Great idea, I would move to this in game.

[tact65]

the only time i will waste a slot for this will if skye is being pain otherwise it simiply not worth it , and fire or series's orb(which i think it will work on ) or mark of moji(similar) is not worth it as they are instate and deal damag/stun fast or in case of nando apply constantly

if it was to work on thing like cautrise then sign me up now
a reduction of .9 second on 3 persistance from 1.5 to .6 is awsome for heal and worth buying for most
but then i doubt anyone would let this happen as heal meta is problmatic as it is

[cmsaunli]

With % damage being such an incredibly strong thing in the game at the moment (and always has been), I'd definitely vote for it.

[TangAce]

reveal should count as control

[TheMasterSlayer]

There not many and the only one worth it would be Skye

[Vampragon43]

This is interesting because there actually was an item almost identical to this at one point during the closed beta. It was called Sterilize. It costed 200 credits and it reduced the duration of Damage Over Time effects by 25%. It was removed presumably because there were very few champions back then that could even inflict DoT effects. Now that there are more of those DoT effects, I think it would be very nice to introduce it into the game once more. Especially since Debilitate is so strong at the moment.

Personally, I think it should be 30% per level rather than 20% to keep it at the same effectiveness as Resilience.

[AyyDimitri]

Exactly comrades.
DoT is an effect in the game and it does need to have its own value.
However I will stand by the values of 20/40/60
I'd go as far as being 25/50/75
But a 90 reduction on all DoT and Harmful debuffs would just uber protection vs these things.
Armour cards should not provide that much protection. %90 reduction of skyes poison would be too much for example, and a 10s reveal would be lowered to 1s. Too much protection, it cannot be that strong.

Take into account that there are effects like zhins execute ult that is based on DoT, this would outright counter it at high levels and make the ult more of a free zhin frag. It is already countered by CC immunity.

[PoTAToSNlpEr]

Item Shop Card: Persistence

Price: 200 / 400 / 600

Effect:
Reduce the Duration of Harmful Effects by 20/40/60%.

Breakdown:
What is a harmful effect? I'm talking about things like Burning, Poison, Reveal effects that persist over a gradual duration. Non controlling harmful effects that effect you though Resilience.

Ever been torched by Nando, to any chump without an ability the negate the flames, they get burned at a mere tick for 200 over 2s.
Mal Poison, Skye poison are similar in this aspect.
And I believe there will be many new abilities to come that will fall into this area.

Ok So..

Currently there is no real defence against these elements other then taking the appropriate damage resistance. Which means that hostile effects such as damage over time can play a detrimental role throughout the game and not be countered by items in the shop beyond damage application.

It is the duration of such hostile effects that plays an interesting role in the way the game plays.

- If a character is being damaged by most damage over time attacks, they lose their ability to get out of combat for several seconds thus losing potential self healing.

- Most champs with no ability to cleanse these effects get put under additional pressure and must zone back to safer grounds by just merely walking into Nando burn, or revealed for eternity by standing in line of sight of Tyra.

By having some in game element that reduces the the duration of such effects would be much greater for players all round while fighting against opponents that can combine damage over time with regular damage.

I think there are certain champions who'd invest credits in building themselves against damage over time effects, then we should see some interesting damage over time effects be implemented in future game design that can be balanced by this item being present. This Item would also be a indirect Buff to stealth champs trying to persist through abusive reveals.

This change is terrible. No one is going to buy this item except to hard-counter counter Tyra, Cassie ult, and Skye(whos going to waste an item on Damba curse talent anyway). Its not going to affect vivian or strix even a little as it reveals once u are in line of sight of it+the additional reveal time in their cards is only used to counter Skye. Tyra reveal which is the strongest currently is going to be nerfed at the next update after Io's release. Even if it counters Cassie ult, she will be top tier without it and its not worth it to counter her ult. This card affects Skye the most becuz tyra would be still viable without Hunting Party. Skye is already hard-countered by illuminate. Another item like this will just kill her. Her poison with Debilitate would last less than a second which is too much. Using it against a backline champ like cassie for example it would deal 345 dmg instead of 862 over the duration taking 16 bullets to kill her which is the same dps with Skye without Debilitate. This card is broken and will make Debilitate useless while also nerfing her one and only real flanking talent which is Preparation. It became viable after decrepify got reworked to give ammo instead which Skye needed to run Prep. https://mypaladins.com/player/15336755/potatosnlper
Im using my Skye matches to prove my point on Preparation and the potential it has becuz Players keep saying this talent sucks and make memes out of it. Damage Over Time is not something that should be countered; especially by an item+its not even bursty. Debilitate is a bad example and it needs a very hard nerf but not by adding an item like this. Supports exist in this game and they can heal the dmg to help you get back in the fight. This is a team-based game after all and the most important reason damage over time effects should not have an item counter, is to both promote and reward more teamplay. Only Tyra reveal is going to be countered by this item becuz she doesnt throw a deployable to apply the effect but simply mark them. Tyra reveal along with its dmg bonus is going to be nerfed so this item is going to be extremely unhealthy in Paladins and currently hard-counters only 2 champions (Skye and Tyra). There is nothing great about having an item that reduces the duration of dmg overtime effects which is part of their main dmg source like Fernando and Skye for example. It would just make one of a champions ability useless for the most part.